Great info gentlemen, thanks. Since this thread is almost 3 years old I thought I'd resurrect it with this question regarding the cuffs. The jackets have a chevron style wool ribbon on the sleeves, near the cuff. Most have two buttons and I noticed that some have both buttons below the ribbon and others have one button below and the other button above the ribbon. Is this another idiosyncrasy of different authentic makers "styles" or am I just seeing some sloppy reenactment shells being made? Tombstone Outfitters, Mill Creek, Uncle Sam Sutlery, all seems to have their own style. USHist.com, has some very cool stuff although somewhat pricier. Has the quality or authenticity of these less expensive jackets improved since this thread started? While I can appreciate the artistry behind a $400 jacket, it defeats the purpose to spend that much on a single item and then have to go cheap on everything else. I wish I had two or three thousand laying around to do it right, but I don't. Well done C.J. Daley, but you are a bit out of my league. I'm 55 and don't have the luxury of time to slowly add each piece. So, are any of the aforementioned sutlers putting out decent gear? Thanks, G
Post by Dave Myrick on Jun 26, 2009 19:45:42 GMT -5
GAR, The best answer to your question, is to look at as many original garments and photos of original garments as you can and then draw your own conclusions. Charlie Childs, Chris Daley, Nick Sekela and a few others are the only ones making accurate reproductions of these garments. As usual, you get what you pay for. The garments offered for sale by those suppliers you mentioned are poorly made with poor patterns and incorrect materials. The reason the $400 MSJ's exist is in large part due to the cost of the materials and the amount of time to properly assemble the jacket. A properly made MSJ is 100000% more comfortable to wear than one of the $150 versions. But to answer your question, no none of the sutlers you mentioned are selling decent gear. Dave
Thanks, Dave. Your knowledge of the era is admirable and I wish my budget could support authenticity across the board. It's tough to "shell" out $400 knowing that a $100 jacket will likely outlast me. As for the originals, I'm seeing the sleeve buttons are on both sides of the chevron which means the both buttons below style is either farb, or unique similar to the single striped collar. Interesting that some of the cheaper sutlers claim that their uniforms are made "exactly as the originals were".
Post by Dave Myrick on Jun 29, 2009 18:23:01 GMT -5
You dont have to sacrifice authenticity for the sake of a $100 MSJ made from blanket weight wool that will turn purple with time and make you feel like you are in a oven when wearing it. Buy a good quality blouse and wear that. Sure $400 is steep for for any piece of gear and since we are such a small portion of the hobby as a whole, the availability of used gear is sparse at best. Blouses, infantry trousers, and boots were seen in the ranks. I have photos of infantrymen wearing mounted overcoats and cavalrymen wearing blouses, forage caps, infantry trousers and foot pattern overcoats. So, get a good hat, a good blouse, trousers and pair of boots and you will have no problem in the standards for any event. Dave
Thanks again, Dave. I'm currently on a family road-trip vacation. We were in Colonial Williamsburg for the 4th, are currently in Washington D.C. and will be traveling next to Gettysburg for a two nights stay on Sunday, 7/12. I'll be checking out forage caps and possibly boots at Dirty Billy's. What other sutler stores are worth considering? I will only have an hour or possibly two to shop (lots to see, so little time) so I can't afford to waste time. I know at least some of the sutlers are only open on the weekends, which makes choosing which to visit even more time critical. I'd appreciate any and all recommendations. Thanks in advance, Gary
Not sure what size it is but The Depot in Gettysburg has a good used one that could save you a couple hundred if it fits. Todd Morris of Morris Clothiers owns it. They're in Gettysburg and open Sundays.
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