Post by Whirlygigger on May 13, 2005 12:37:04 GMT -5
What a wonderfully new area of interest we have here thanks to the moderator.
Some of us may know the word Studebaker or have heard the term of Body by Fisher. What about a Findley, a Coolidge, a Rucker or Rosecrans? In the weeks and months ahead we can delight ourselves in identifying the various types of conveyances and how the cavalry would have played in conducting them between destinations via order'd convoys? what disnaces were they to be placed apart from one antoher? How were they to be set into waggon parks or at depots?
Terms like government contract vs a light wagon, a dray, van, spring waggon, kitchen cart, portable forge, ulility or battery wagon were well known to cavalry then. How much should we want to know of them to-day. Could you have used one of these near your picket line at your last outing?
Post by browerpatch on May 21, 2005 21:08:50 GMT -5
How about that fly rigged as a "front porch", too. Looks like it might be a work station for a pencil pusher of some sort, and provided shade. Also, easy enough to move it back over the tent if rain threatens.
ps, thanks for the images and links for ambulances.
Post by Whirlygigger on May 22, 2005 7:17:08 GMT -5
You bring up a good point about the portion of the image above showing the tent with th fly and the stove (as in the possibility of it being reserved for the pencil pusher I mean).
We, as re-enactor/historians, have all heard the phrase:
"an army moves on it's stomach"
The truism we seldom hear is that:
"an army moves on it's stomach - but not before the paperwork is completed"
This is the reality of real soldiering and, whether some choose to believe it or not, it always has been the case since the Greeks and the Romans.
Those requistions and regulations are ever in place in the government of troops, and you can bet that there is some bean-counter somewhere, sitting at some depot, accounting for every broken waggon wheel and every bale of hay that was convey'd upon those wheels.
If I recall, the bales of hay were actually somewhat larger than the size we are familiar with now-a-days, but, when received in this configuration, these somewhat larger bales could still be fit into the bed of a government contract waggon.
As for the lack of ridge pole for the dining fly, well... one hunch might be that it (in conjunction with other goodies) may have actually exceeded the allowable weight for the waggon and, along with other bagage (they/we'd all like to have it ALL on hand if we were given our drutters), it was perhaps considered superfulous to transportation by the time this image was taken. After all... most cut or fallen light sapplings would have worked as well and could have been had along the roadway (sometimes). Oh, if the image could just speak to us just a bit more...
I think RG-92 or 94 at the National Archives will have the plans you are seeking when you get around to constructing your four-wheel'd ambulance. Two wheel'd carts are easier to construct, cost less to build and transport and can carry quite a lot in themselves. When the medical service released them in favour of the four-wheel'd Rucker these little gems were used as utility vans.
Some carts were also constructed with side shafts for single horse operations too so don't let the four-horse lash-up ruffle your mane..
Post by topkick1833 on Jun 21, 2007 9:25:23 GMT -5
I know of a gentleman who does a wagon driver impression. He has not done it in a couple of years. I also believe there is someone with the 2D U.S. that has a wagon and will be at one of the upcoming Antietam events.
Whirlygigger, Is there anybody doing a Civil War wagon driver impression with a wagon and team at events these days? Stay Safe, Mike.
John Novicki, currently of Fairplay, PA (just South of Gettysburg) has constructed a one-horse two wheel'd ambulance cart from wheels that I gave him that once originally belonged to him (but that's another story).
Jeff Clegg from out in Kentucky operated a team of two and a couple of wagons during the 125th with Meddich Brig.
Karl Feldmeyer of Boonesborough, MD, constructed a government contract wagon which he sold to the NPS at Harpers Ferry, but I think it has rotted away due to their rangers leaving it out in the weather.
And Jack King of Galveston, TX, was in the process of having four or five government spec. contract wagons made up but that was prior to a devastating hurricane in his neck of the woods.
There was another group who showed up at one of our meetings with the Killer Bagels (Angels) movie folks who were speaking of organizing a freight and cartage association but I don't think anything actually came of their plans.
Pity that, since it would have done much to elevate the civilian segment of the community, as to functionality, along with telegraphers, expressmen, constabulary and letter carriers, a town clerk, civil engineers, some wood yardmen and a town council.
Post by belger32ndga on Nov 3, 2009 22:59:17 GMT -5
I drive team for some of the local reenactments as a civilian reenactor. We drove a team once in Waynesboro, Ga to start the battle by being stopped in the field by Federal pickets who began to ransack the covered wagon...A female with me, in period costume got out to confront the Yanks and generally have a hissy fit. I had to stay in the box for safety reasons. At a given signal, the Confederate cavalry came charging out of the woodline, the Federals fall out around the wagon(safe zone pre discussed) and I take off with the female running to dive in the wagon rear....the battle progressed from there. Everybody liked it and I learned a great deal. I am looking for more events and also artillery units that are interested in horse drawn.